The Personal Lines Opportunity
On Point with Peter van Aartrijk and Rick Morgan is an audio conversation with insurance industry leaders who champion change and challenge all of us to think.
IIABA’s annual market share study compares the share of the property / casualty business on commercial and personal lines bases, and compares the aggregate of the independent agent to the captive agent.
Personal lines insurance is a tremendous source of revenue. Asa Pike and John McDonald of Agency Revenue Tools, a software company created to help agents go after personal lines insurance, explain the potential of the personal lines opportunity, and discuss the benefits of the Personal Lines Growth Alliance as a tool to capitalize on the potential.
The podcast was published Monday, February 15, 2010. Run time is 24 minutes 55 seconds.
Google Loves Blogs in 2010
On Point with Peter van Aartrijk and Rick Morgan is an audio conversation with insurance industry leaders who champion change and challenge all of us to think.
“Don’t be a binge blogger.”
These are the words of Liz Strauss, a blogger and social media educator, when discussing the importance of consistency over frequency. Other advice for new bloggers includes: using free web analytics to monitor metrics; using FAQs as initial blog posts; and the importance of a really good headline on a blog post.
Here’s another: “You are the chef that provides the content that Google serves up.”
Enjoy other morsels of blogging wisdom at Liz’s April SOBCon in Chicago, follow Liz on Twitter, or tune into this tasty episode.
The podcast was published Monday, February 1, 2010. Run time is 27 minutes 15 seconds.
“You have to embrace it and engage with it.” That’s what Esurance says it does with negative commentary on the Web, noted the brand’s chief marketing officer, John Swigart, at the Nov. 5 2009 A.M. Best Insurance Marketing and Advertising Summit in New York.
The auto insurer in 2004 created “Erin Esurance” (a cartoon character fighting off villains to insure her car) to deliver the message: it’s easy to quote-buy-print your auto insurance policy. Esurance’s brand and advertising icon are well known in the 30 states in which the insurer does business, primarily because of $94 million of TV advertising in 2008. What’s more, according to TNS Media Intelligence, Esurance has pumped up its TV ad buy by 45% thus far in 2009.
But TV advertising isn’t enough, curiously. Esurance also has made a commitment to use social media sites to follow up with customers after the sale, Swigert said. He cited an example of a Esurance customer who complained on Twitter: “@Esurance is saying my policy with $55k coverage doesn’t cover my roommates things. This is not going to be fun.”
To make a long story (about a month long, it turns out) short, Esurance’s eagle-eyed social media monitors replied to the customer via Twitter, then got in touch by e-mail and resolved the issue to the customer’s satisfaction. Esurance got a public thank you, noted Swigert, from the customer: “@Esurance Thank you for everything! You really came through. Guess I’m a customer for life now.”
That’s a nice ending to the story for Esurance.
But there’s also some good news in this story for independent insurance agents and brokers: Even the big ad spenders need to work one-on-one with customers. That kind of personal follow-up and response to consumers is what independent insurance agencies do every day of the week.
The big-ad-spender brands have to perform on the same nitty-gritty issues (read: claims) as do independent agents and their carriers. The difference today is that social media has made the process viewable to others, if and when any given consumer chooses to make it public. There’s a new public record, and it’s called “social media.”
Independent agents who are active in social networking have had this epiphany. Here’s what Nibby Priest of Vaughn Insurance Agency Co., Henderson, Kentucky, said in an Insurance Journal Webinar in September:
Q: In opening up your business to Facebook fan page, you are obviously opening up your business to negative feedback. How do handle negative comments?
Nibby Priest: “That’s a great question. Sometimes people don’t want to be a part of social media because they don’t want somebody to say something negative. You know bad things are not always bad; sometimes you need to know about them. So many times a client will leave you and you don’t even know what you did wrong. So, at least this gives an avenue and gives you, as business owners, the opportunity to go in there and correct it.”
Enough said.
“Can we get to business?!”
That partly-excited, partly-frustrated-sounding question popped out at me from among several dozen when I was moderating a Webinar (“Social Media 101: Get Your Agency on Facebook and Twitter” presented by Insurance Journal) in early September.
The Webinar was presented by Nibby Priest of Vaughn Insurance Agency Co., who is among the most-active insurance producers I know in using social networking.
The question came while Nibby was showing how to get a personal Facebook page started. This is one of the most-popular things to do on the Internet. After all, Facebook has 200 million-plus members and is among the top 5 most-visited Web sites in the world.
When I read the question, I sensed that the agent asking the question was impatient with all the “personal” Facebook material, and wanted to get to the important stuff: how to use Facebook to market and sell.
I’ve felt the same frustration in the past — until I realized that the personal nature of Facebook is what makes it popular and captivating for millions. Facebook isn’t like advertising or direct mail or an e-mail newsletter or a Yellow Pages ad. It’s not really a marketing tool or tactic to be pulled out of the marketing plan and executed.
It’s something very different: It’s a technological way to carry out social relationships online.
Facebook is popular because it allows people to:
– connect person-to-person
– choose people, brands, organizations, causes, and advertisers they want to connect with online … and shun or ignore those they don’t
– easily search and find people from their past and present to build relationships going forward into the future
So, for me, a lesson of “Social Media 101: Get Your Agency on Facebook and Twitter” was a reminder that social networking is about talking with people, not merely sending out business messages via advertising or marketing. I’m as big a fan as anyone of advertising and marketing, but Facebook requires a different approach. It requires a commitment to joining a community, providing value, presenting information and perspective, and building relationships.
The great hope of social networking for marketers is that when members of the community are ready to buy, they will find you — even seek you out — because they know you and know what you know.
– Charles Wasilewski

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Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved. (Matthew 9:17)
The world of marketing, PR, branding and communication is being transformed. Consumers have rebelled against “push” marketing. They want to be heard when it comes to how you do business. Trusted relationships are more important than ever and control of your brand is in the hands of your customers.
Clearly “old” marketing and media strategy is failing. Social networking to the rescue, right? Not so fast. When it comes to social media it is not enough to engage the tools, build strategy and implement. Rather, success requires a change in culture and in the way in which business is done. Success with social media requires a culture that is customer centric, comfortable with transparency and understands that message and opinion lie primarily outside of their control. That is, success happens when the “new wine” of social media is put in the “new bottle” of a transformed company culture.
Rick Morgan
On Point with Peter van Aartrijk and Rick Morgan is an audio conversation with insurance industry leaders who champion change and challenge all of us to think.
In this first episode, Insurance Journal’s Mitch Dunford and Julie Tinney introduce the new “On Point” podcast with hosts Rick and Peter, and discuss Insurance Journal’s adoption of technology, including social media.
The podcast was published Thursday, June 25, 2009. Run time is 29 minutes 2 seconds.
It’s a fad
I don’t have time for this
It’s not appropriate for business
Show me the ROI
I don’t want my staff wasting company time on this
I am concerned about the E&O exposure
Objections or perhaps more accurately excuses to avoid having to deal with the social networking? Yes, but we have heard it all before.
Earlier today, I was just talking to a friend about the history associated with the use of technology in the insurance agency business. I reminded him that back in the early ’80s when the push was on for agents go become “automated” there was huge resistance. He then recalled how when e-mail was first introduced many agency owners adamantly objected to their staff using it and the objections were even stronger about “surfing ” the web at work.
Yes, there needs to be a corporate strategy. Yes, there needs to be a policy. Yes, there needs to be management and monitoring. Yes, there shoud be best practices guidelines. Yes, Yes, Yes. But lets get past the excuses and begin to reap the rewards that come with smart implementation social networking. The hoola hoop was a fad. The societal and business trends being fueled by the social web are not.
– Rick Morgan
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Google Wave is “collaboration and communication using the same tool.”
– Jens Rasmussen, Senior Staff Engineer, Google
“Many people believe search today is a great tool; however we believe search is still in its infancy and there is much more that people can and should expect from their search service. Bing … is designed to help people find the shortest distance from their initial search query to the point of making an informed decision.”
– John Mangelaars, VP, Consumer and Online, Microsoft EMEA
In reading these quotes and looking into the latest four-letter words (“Bing” from Microsoft and “Wave” from Google) to sweep the Web, I’m struck by the incredible optimism of the people who are developing tools for the Web.
I see these Web tools (search engines, e-mail, and social networks) and say things like: ‘Wow. Amazing that these are available to me today, and for free or little cost. And they help me work faster and better.’ These folks say things like: ‘Well, those are neat but they have shortcomings X, Y, and Z. Here’s another approach we’re working on.’

Google Wave
Thus we have Google Wave (still in development and not yet available) and Microsoft’s Bing (a “decision engine” and not, the Microsofties insist, a “search engine”).
Bing is out and available. Wave was previewed for the tech/developer crowd last week. How they fit into the future, or how they fade away, I’ve no idea yet. But the excitement (mixed with angst) is that they might change the way we communicate.
Let me leave you with two statements from the folks working on Bing and Wave, the first serious and the second (mostly) tongue-in-cheek.
“Microsoft has designed Bing to help people quickly find the information they need on daily routine searches and in order to accomplish tasks, including making a purchase decision, planning a trip, researching a health condition or finding a local business…. The explosive growth of online content has continued unabated, and Bing was developed as a tool to help people more easily navigate through the information overload that has come to characterise many of today’s search experiences…. across all search engines, as many as 30% of searches are abandoned without a satisfactory result.” [source: comScore Inc.]
– Microsoft news release, May 28, 2009
“Don’t be shy, you guys. If you see something you like, don’t be shy letting us know. We can handle pretty much any amount of applause.”
– Lars Rasmussen, Software Engineering Manager, Google, to developers when previewing Wave
– Charles Wasilewski
Peter van Aartrijk’s column in the Insurance Marketing section of the May 2009 issue of Best’s Review magazine (www.BestReview.com) noted six reasons why the recession is a good time (yes, a good time) to invest in brand development.
One of the reasons: “Insurance consumers need advice today.” A marketing campaign can help clients and prospects decide to seek a “good combination of coverage and price”–with your agency.

Peter van Aartrijk discusses the social Web with Mike Wise of IdeaStar.
Agent Web sites are an agency owner’s “busiest storefront” — or at least they can be.
That’s one of the thoughts that Peter van Aartrijk, managing director of Aartrijk, shared during a recent podcast with Mike Wise of IdeaStar. In one of Mike’s “InsuraTech” audio podcasts, Peter discussed the social Web, agent Web sites, and how they can work together for an agency:
– The social Web is “not something to be feared. It’s something to be leveraged.”
– “You’re either LinkedIn or locked out.”
– “We like to think of the Web site as the busiest office for the agency … their busiest storefront.”
– ”I’m worried about the calls agencies aren’t getting” because their Web sites cannot be found by people who get a word-of-mouth referral to the agency and then search for the agency via a search engine.
– “Convert that knowledge [of dispensing advice to consumers about risk management] … into text on a blog.”
– ”There’s a lot of general information out there. But what we bring to the table is the knowledge of how agents andd brokers and carriers can take advantage” of social networking.
Check out the podcast at: http://tinyurl.com/clmo5.
Or visit: http://blog.insurance-technologies.com/2009/04/insuratech-podcast-episode-28-peter-van-aartrijk-on-agent-websites-a-conundrum/
April 30, 2009
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